Gone are the days of coherent international coordination. Rather than working together to solve pressing crises, many of the world’s most powerful states are actively making those crises worse. The result? We’re living through a novel historical era: The Global Enduring Disorder.

The Disorder podcast, in partnership with RUSI, teases out the key principles that connect seemingly disparate challenges: from Climate Change to Tax Havens, to Unregulated Cyberspace, to the Wars in Ukraine, Syria, and Libya. Jason Pack, Associate Fellow at RUSI, and returning cohosts, discuss with world-leading experts, senior diplomats and cultural icons, the fundamental principles lurking behind today’s global issues.

At the conclusion of each episode, they will proposing inventive, win-win solutions to the globe’s most pressing challenges aka, ‘Ordering the Disorder’.

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Jason Pack host of Disorder Podcast

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Jason Pack is the Author of Libya and the Global Enduring Disorder and Founder of Libya-Analysis LLC, and an Associate Fellow at RUSI . Jason is a Grandmaster of Backgammon.

Jane Kinninmont - Co-Host of Disorder

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Jane Kinninmont is the Policy & Impact Director of the European Leadership Network. Previously she was Head of Programmes for The Elders. She appears regularly in the broadcast media especially on the BBC.

Arthur Snell - Disorder Co-host

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Former British Ambassador with 25+ years’ experience of international security, geopolitics and foreign affairs. Author of 'How Britain Broke the World' and 'Elemental' (to be published in 2026).

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